| Last Modified: 01-30-2024 | 6.11:8.1.0 | Doc ID: RM100000002FL3S |
| Model Year Start: 2024 | Model: RAV4 | Prod Date Range: [10/2023 - ] |
| Title: A25A-FKS (BATTERY / CHARGING): CHARGING SYSTEM: P161A87; Lost Communication with Alternator Missing Message; 2024 MY RAV4 [10/2023 - ] | ||
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DTC |
P161A87 |
Lost Communication with Alternator Missing Message |
DESCRIPTION
The ECM communicates with the generator assembly via LIN communication. If a LIN communication error is detected, the ECM stores this DTC.
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DTC No. |
Detection Item |
DTC Detection Condition |
Trouble Area |
MIL |
Warning Indicate |
Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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P161A87 |
Lost Communication with Alternator Missing Message |
Generator assembly or ECM communication stops for approximately 17 minutes or more with the ignition switch ON (1 trip detection logic) |
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Charge warning light does not come on |
SAE Code: P161A |
WIRING DIAGRAM
CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT
NOTICE:
- Inspect the fuses for circuits related to this system before performing the following inspection procedure.
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Before replacing the ECM, refer to Registration.
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PROCEDURE
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1. |
CHECK CHARGING SYSTEM |
(a) Check the charging system.
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Result |
Proceed to |
|---|---|
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OK (w/ Stop and Start System) |
A |
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OK (w/o Stop and Start System) |
B |
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NG |
C |
| B |
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| C |
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REPAIR OR REPLACE CHARGING SYSTEM |
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2. |
CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ECM - GENERATOR ASSEMBLY) |
(a) Disconnect the C40 ECM connector.
(b) Disconnect the C46 generator assembly connector.
(c) Disconnect the A48 battery state sensor assembly connector.
(d) Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.
Standard Resistance (Check for Open):
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Tester Connection |
Condition |
Specified Condition |
|---|---|---|
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A48-2 (LIN) or C46-2 (LIN) - C40-62 (LIN) |
Always |
Below 1 Ω |
Standard Resistance (Check for Short):
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Tester Connection |
Condition |
Specified Condition |
|---|---|---|
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A48-2 (LIN), C46-2 (LIN) or C40-62 (LIN) - Body ground |
Always |
10 kΩ or higher |
| NG |
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REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR |
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3. |
CLEAR DTC |
(a) Connect the Techstream to the DLC3.
(b) Turn the ignition switch to ON.
(c) Turn the Techstream on.
(d) Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine / Trouble Codes.
(e) Check for DTCs, and then write them down.
Powertrain > Engine > Trouble Codes
(f) Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine / Trouble Codes.
(g) Clear the DTCs.
Powertrain > Engine > Clear DTCs
(h) Turn the ignition switch off and wait 30 seconds.
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4. |
CHECK DTC OUTPUT |
(a) Connect the Techstream to the DLC3.
(b) Start the engine.
(c) Allow the engine to idle for approximately 17 minutes or more.
(d) Turn the Techstream on.
(e) Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine / Trouble Codes.
(f) Check for DTCs.
Powertrain > Engine > Trouble Codes
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Result |
Proceed to |
|---|---|
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Only DTC P161A87 is output. |
A |
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DTC P161A87 and P162B87 are output. |
B |
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DTCs are not output. |
C |
| A |
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| B |
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| C |
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5. |
CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ECM - GENERATOR ASSEMBLY) |
(a) Disconnect the C40 ECM connector.
(b) Disconnect the C46 generator assembly connector.
(c) Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.
Standard Resistance (Check for Open):
|
Tester Connection |
Condition |
Specified Condition |
|---|---|---|
|
C46-2 (LIN) - C40-62 (LIN) |
Always |
Below 1 Ω |
Standard Resistance (Check for Short):
|
Tester Connection |
Condition |
Specified Condition |
|---|---|---|
|
C46-2 (LIN) or C40-62 (LIN) - Body ground |
Always |
10 kΩ or higher |
| NG |
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REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR |
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6. |
INSPECT GENERATOR ASSEMBLY |
(a) Inspect the generator assembly.
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for 100 A, 130 A Type
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for 150 A Type
Click here
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for VALEO Made
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| OK |
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| NG |
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REPLACE GENERATOR ASSEMBLY
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